‘Friday like Christmas and birthday rolled into one!’ – Liverpool fans react to news that Jurgen Klopp could be unveiled this week
Jurgen Klopp could become the Liverpool manager on Friday 1 Rumour has it that Jurgen Klopp will be unveiled as the new manager of Liverpool Football Club on Friday – just five days after Brendan Rodgers was sacked by Fenway Sports Group.Supporters have been calling for the former Borussia Dortmund boss to replace the Northern Irishman over the past few weeks following their underwhelming start to the new season, and it seems their wishes could soon become a reality.Having now heard the news that Liverpool could just be days away from announcing Klopp’s appointment, some Reds fans simply cannot wait for the day to arrive.To illustrate the excitement, we’ve scoured Twitter and have collected the best reactions of Liverpool’s most thrilled supporters.Take a look below…
1 Man United icon Paul Scholes Man United fans took over Twitter on Monday to wish Old Trafford favourite Paul Scholes a happy birthday.Having played in the UNICEF Match for Children, the midfielder reminded supporters just how good he was with a goal and some claiming he could still walk into Louis van Gaal’s current side.Scholes is now 41 and fans will always have a soft spot for the ‘Ginger Prince’.Is he the best midfielder England has produced in recent times?
10 Saido Berahino (West Brom) – With the forward, 22, appearing frozen out at the Hawthorns its likely hell try and force a move through before January is out. Tottenham remain in the hunt but it seems Newcastle United and Chelsea are now frontrunners for his signature. 10 10 Bertrand Traore (Chelsea) – The talented 20-year-old from Burkino Faso is likely to leave the Blues on loan before the transfer window shuts. Traore wants first-team football and sides like Marseille, Everton, Ajax and Borussia Dortmund are willing to take him on a temporary deal. Kylian Mbappe (Monaco) – The latest young forward to leave the French side could well be highly-rated Mbappe. Its unlikely hell be sold for anywhere near the amount Anthony Martial left for, but the 17-year-old is still being chased by numerous top clubs, including Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Chelsea and Arsenal. Moussa Dembele (Fulham) – The Cottagers are reluctant to let the French starlet, 19, leave west London in this transfer window. Slavisa Jokanovic wants the player to return on loan if they do sell the player in the last days of the window, but this seems unlikely. Dembele is out of contract at the end of the season, so economically it would make sense to sell him in January, but his employers are willing to play hardball over any transfer. Raphael Guerreiro (Lorient) – Click the right arrow for more young talents who could seal transfers before the window ends… – Portuguese 22-year-old Guerreiro impressed observers last season and is continuing to do so with Napoli, Roma, Juventus and Inter Milan all interested. Its Premier League side Liverpool who lead the race though, Calcionews24 report theyre holding talks with Lorient over a deal for the left-sided star. 10 10 10 10 Inaki Williams (Athletic Bilbao) – You would think a 21-year-old signing a new deal at his current club, which has a £38m release clause in it, would put off potential suitors. Instead, Manchester City still seem keen to land the Spain starlet and are ready to splash the cash to sign him. 10 Adrien Rabiot (Paris Saint-Germain) – The 20-year-old has been continually linked with switches to Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham over the last year and may well finally push through a move this transfer window. He wont come cheap but may be worth a punt, a loan deal is a possibility too, with that option interesting Marseille. With young and hungry players currently doing brilliantly at several Premier League sides, it’s understandable they’re a wanted commodity in the transfer window.Tottenham’s starlets are firing on all cylinders after Mauricio Pochettino sold off a number of experienced but underperforming players in the summer.Teams are now looking to follow suit which means in the final few days of the January transfer window we could see a number of highly-rated youngsters move club.But who are the players most likely to seal deals away from their current employers.Click the right arrow above to find out which 10 players under-23 could complete transfers in January… 10 10 Sandro Ramirez (Barcelona) – With Tottenham currently training in the Spanish city, there is a chance they could return with a new signing. Mauricio Pochettino has been keeping tabs on the young striker and could move to sign the 20-year-old if he feels he needs to bolster his forward line, despite Heung-Min Sons competent performances as Harry Kanes back up. Dennis Praet (Anderlecht) – Praet successful start to life as a footballer in his homeland could end in the coming days. The 21-year-old is interesting several sides, with Aston Villa and Liverpool being keen in the Premier League, and his agent has already admitted its highly unlikely hell be at the club at the start of next season. Patrick Roberts (Manchester City) – The 18-year-old ex-Fulham winger is a real talent and, having been given just four Premier League minutes so far this campaign, he could leave the club on loan this month. Celtic are reportedly interested in his services and beginning talks over a temporary deal. 
West Ham boss Slaven Bilic hopes to compete a loan deal for Emmanuel Emenike in the next couple of days.Bilic wants the Nigerian striker, who has scored seven goals in 11 games for UAE side Al Ain this season, to boost his attacking options for the Premier League run-in.Emenike is currently on loan from Fenerbahce, however, and the deal is being held up due to negotiations with the Turkish club.“We are still waiting for that, it’s a complicated situation,” said Bilic.“Al Ain called me and basically we thought we could do a straight swap with them, but now we are talking to Fenerbahce, and we will see what happens.“At the beginning it looked easy, between two clubs, but then when we had to deal with Fenerbahce, who are a third party.“So at one moment it didn’t look good, but in last couple of days the deal is looks pretty much alive.”Bilic had earmarked Galatasaray striker Burak Yilmaz as a potential alternative if the Emenike deal falls through, but the Hammers are only interested in a loan.“With Burak it’s a different situation as they are looking to sell and we are not buying,” he added.Nikica Jelavic looks set to make way for Emenike, although the former Everton forward’s proposed switch to Chinese side Guangzhou Evergrande will not be completed just yet.Jelavic has found first-team opportunities at Upton Park hard to come by and will fall further down the pecking order when Diafra Sakho and Andy Carroll return from injury.“Jelavic might go to China, but it’s pre-season there, the season hasn’t started so he is staying with us until he sorts a deal out,” said Bilic.“The injury situation is looking good. Andy will be back playing in 10 days and Diafra and (Manuel) Lanzini in two weeks.“Andy will train with us after the Liverpool game on Saturday and if he trains well he could be back with us for next weekend.”Bilic is still waiting to hear the extent of the knee injury suffered by defender Carl Jenkinson against Manchester City last Saturday, amid fears the Arsenal loanee’s season is over.“Carl has another appointment with the specialist and we are waiting for the results,” he said.“He was really unlucky with the injury but we are still hoping it’s not that bad.”Bilic will hand a late fitness check to captain Mark Noble ahead of the FA Cup fourth-round trip to Anfield, with the midfielder missing training on Thursday due to flu. 1 Emmanuel Emenike 
A moment of brilliance from Cristiano Ronaldo helped Zinedine Zidane on his way to a first Champions League win as Real Madrid manager – a 2-0 scoreline away at Roma.A game that had been cagey in the first half opened up in the second, and Ronaldo broke the deadlock in the 57th minute.Both teams had a number of chances after that but it was Real who took advantage, with 22-year-old substitute Jese scoring his first Champions League goal four minutes from time.The visitors enjoyed the best of what chances there were in the first half but they were largely restricted to long-range efforts.The closest Real came was a dipping volley from the lively Marcelo in the 33rd minute that would have been one of the best goals the competition has witnessed had the ball dropped the other side of the post.Roma threatened sporadically and might have taken the lead right at the end of the half but for a superb last-ditch tackle from Raphael Varane to deny Stephan El Shaarawy.El Shaarawy broke through again early in the second half only to be foiled by goalkeeper Keylor Navas, and moments later Ronaldo put Real ahead.Marcelo played in the forward down the left and he cut inside before unleashing a shot that was deflected past Wojciech Szczesny.Roma pushed forward in search of an equaliser, and they nearly found it in the 72nd minute but William Vainqueur’s volley flew just past the post.The Italians were leaving lots of space at the back and both Ronaldo and James Rodriguez missed the target with free headers before Szczesny denied Karim Benzema.At the other end, substitute Edin Dzeko blasted into the side netting from a tight angle, while Dani Carvajal was extremely fortunate to get away with a rash challenge on Alessandro Florenzi in the box.Zidane, who scored the winning goal for Real in the 2002 Champions League final, sent on Jese for James in the 82nd minute and four minutes later the striker drove towards goal before firing beyond Szczesny into the bottom corner.Elsewhere, Wolfsburg were 3-2 winners at Gent. 1 Zinedine Zidane wins first Champions League match in charge 
8 8 8 8 The Holy Grail is now the Premier League and Champions League For that reason, an Arsenal double this year would be something very special for younger Gooners, but the reality is that the English domestic double isn’t what it used to be.There was a time when winning both the league title and FA Cup was a Holy Grail for English football.Preston North End achieved the feat in the Football League’s very first season, 1888/89, then Aston Villa became the second club to claim both honours in a single campaign in 1896/97.Then, for over half a century, as the English game grew in popularity and prestige, the double eluded everyone.Bearing in mind until the late 1950s no English teams competed in European competition and that the League Cup wasn’t founded until 1960, nor was it contested by every Football League side until the early 1970s, league football and the FA Cup were the only trophies in town.Yet still, it wasn’t until Tottenham Hotspur swept all before them in both competitions in 1960/61 that the double was claimed in the 20th century. 8 Not so, since the FA Cup has diminished in status to the point where it’s frequently bemoaned as a hindrance to more important objectives, by a wide range of clubs, from the likes of Champions League hopefuls Manchester City, down to Championship clubs like Hull. The fact now is that, were Arsenal to win the double this season, it would not be comparable to the prestige such an achievement carried in 1971, or even 1998, due to the FA Cup’s declining status.Two trophies would still be a magnificent return, and is certainly not to be sniffed at, but much like Chelsea’s and Manchester City’s Premier League and League Cup doubles in the past two seasons, it simply would not resonate in the way that the domestic double used to. Agree? Disagree? Comment below. Arsenal’s 2-0 first leg defeat to Barcelona in the Champions League was a major disappointment for the Gunners, despite the obvious quality of their opponents.The comprehensive home defeat leaves Arsene Wenger’s side facing a monumental task to progress to the quarter-finals, almost certainly meaning a sixth successive exit at the last 16 stage in Europe.While Arsenal appear to be as far away as ever from ending their wait for a first European Cup, being knocked out by Barcelona could yet prove a blessing in disguise as far as the North London club’s domestic ambitions are concerned.Two points behind surprise leaders Leicester in the Premier League, and with Hull and a home tie against Watford standing in their path to another FA Cup semi-final, this could yet be a glorious campaign for the Gunners.A third FA Cup triumph in a row would mark the first occasion since the 1880s that any club had won a hat-trick of cups, with Blackburn Rovers the last to win the trophy three years in succession. It was getting to the point where winning the double had gone from the Holy Grail to commonplace and, as a result, despite still representing a major achievement, had undoubtedly lessened in historical impact.But since then, only Chelsea in 2009/10 have claimed both the Premier League title and FA Cup in the same season, which you might take to mean would increase the prestige attached to claiming the domestic double. 8 Times have changed.These days the real double, the Holy Grail for English football’s elite – one which would truly echo down the ages – is the Premier League and Champions League. 8 That rarity of achievement made the double something special.Arsenal emulated their great rivals by claiming the double in 1970/71, and after a decade of dominating both the English and European scene, Liverpool won the league and FA Cup in 1985/86.Then the Premier League era dawned, the gulf in finances between the best and the rest grew, and major trophies increasingly became dominated by the richest clubs.Manchester United duly won a ‘double double’ with success in 1994 and 1996, Arsenal won the double in 1998 and 2002, while United technically won another double in 1999, as part of their treble campaign when they added the Champions League. For Wenger to claim a first Premier League title since 2004, Arsenal’s 14th overall and a first since moving to the Emirates Stadium, would be even greater cause for celebration.But to claim an English record fourth league and FA Cup double would arguably be Wenger’s finest achievement of all, considering the current Arsenal side are a shadow of his greatest teams.With the Frenchman approaching 20 years in charge of the Gunners, memories of the ‘double double’ he claimed for Arsenal, in 1998 and 2002, are now somewhat distant, with a whole generation of the club’s fans too young to have witnessed either season. 8
AD Quality Auto 360p 720p 1080p Top articles1/5READ MOREChargers go winless in AFC West with season-ending loss in Kansas City“That, however belated, was the right thing to do,” said Dick Pound, chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency. No one answered the door Monday at Jones’ house in Austin, Texas. Jones’ relay teammates also should give back their medals, USOC chairman Peter Ueberroth said. Though there is precedent for not punishing an entire team, the race was tainted, Ueberroth said. Jearl Miles-Clark, Monique Hennagan, Tasha Colander-Richardson and Andrea Anderson all won golds as part of the 1,600-meter relay. Chryste Gaines, Torri Edwards, Nanceen Perry and Passion Richardson were on the 400-meter relay team. Both Edwards and Gaines have served doping bans since the 2000 Olympics. Little by little, the remnants of Marion Jones’ once glorious career are being stripped away. Jones gave back the five medals she won at the Sydney Olympics on Monday following her admission that she was a drug cheat, and also agreed to forfeit all results, medals and prizes dating back to Sept. 1, 2000. “I’m pleased that it was resolved efficiently,” said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. “And at the end of the day, I hope it’s a good lesson that will have a dramatic deterrent effect on all athletes who may be tempted to dope.” The U.S. Olympic Committee now will return the medals to the International Olympic Committee, which will decide what to do with them. Jones won golds in the 100 meters, 200 meters and the 1,600 relay in Sydney, as well as bronzes in the 400 relay and long jump. “It’s our opinion that when any sporting event is won unfairly, it’s completely tarnished and should be returned. The relay events were won unfairly,” Ueberroth said. “We don’t have the jurisdiction on that matter. If we did, we would be on the side of returning the medals.” The USOC has not talked to the other athletes yet about giving up their medals. Fielding a clean team is a priority for a country trying to improve its image in the Olympic movement – not to mention win the 2016 Games – and drug cheats like Jones have been an embarrassment for the USOC. Jones was one of the most celebrated female athletes in the world, and she vehemently denied any doping allegations. Athens gold medalist Justin Gatlin faces a ban of up to eight years after testing positive for testosterone and other steroids in April 2006 – one month before tying the then 100-meter world record. But the USOC and USADA have worked hard to rid the U.S. team of cheats, and Ueberroth pledged Monday that the American athletes at next summer’s Beijing Olympics will be drug-free. The USOC also sent letters apologizing to 205 national Olympic committees and the people of Australia. “Even though it is a negative going back, this will be viewed as positive in our commitment to fielding a clean team,” USOC CEO Jim Scherr said of Jones’ punishment. After long denying she ever had used performance-enhancing drugs, Jones admitted Friday that she’d taken the designer steroid “the clear” from September 2000 to July 2001. “The clear” has been linked to BALCO, the lab at the center of the steroids scandal in professional sports. Jones’ admission came as part of her guilty plea to lying to federal investigators about using steroids. She will be sentenced on Jan. 11, and prosecutors had suggested to Jones the prison term would be a maximum of six months. Though Jones announced her retirement after Friday’s court hearing, she accepted a two-year ban Monday and agreed to forfeit any results dating back to Sept. 1, 2000. That includes the two golds (200 and 400 relay) and silver (100) she won at the 2001 championships in Edmonton. She stands to lose more. Scherr said the USOC plans to go after Jones for prize money it awarded her, about $100,000. The International Association of Athletics Federations rules also allow for athletes busted for doping to be asked to pay back prize money and appearance fees. British sprinter Dwain Chambers, who admitted using the clear, had to pay back a reported $230,615 before he was allowed to return to competition after a two-year ban. Jones would have earned millions in prizes, bonuses and fees from meets all over the world, including a share of the $1 million Golden League jackpot in 2001 and 2002. If the IOC does nullify Jones’ results in Sydney, the standings likely will be readjusted, with the second-place finisher moving up to gold, third to silver and fourth to bronze. Jamaica won silver in the 1,600 relay, and France was fourth in the 400. Pauline Davis-Thompson of the Bahamas was the silver medalist in the 200 meters, and Tatiana Kotova of Russia was fourth in the long jump. The silver medalist in the 100 meters in Sydney was Greek sprinter Katerina Thanou – at the center of a major doping scandal at the Athens Olympics. She and fellow Greek runner Kostas Kenteris failed to show up for drug tests on the eve of the games, claimed they were injured in a motorcycle accident and eventually pulled out. Both later were suspended for two years. “Obviously we’re concerned about a level playing field all the time. But we have no jurisdiction or nothing to say about that,” Ueberroth said. “We have a responsibility to compete fairly. That’s our system, and that’s the way we’re going to live.” 160Want local news?Sign up for the Localist and stay informed Something went wrong. Please try again.subscribeCongratulations! You’re all set!
SANTA FE SPRINGS – What would you deem important enough to put in a time capsule? Would it be of sentimental value like a photo or piece of jewelry or historical like a newspaper? Santa Fe Springs residents will get a chance to voice their opinions today from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the Sculpture Gardens, on the corner of Telegraph Road and Norwalk Boulevard. Those interested can fill out a suggestion form at a city booth. The city has received some ideas from residents. AD Quality Auto 360p 720p 1080p Top articles1/5READ MOREGame Center: Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs, Sunday, 10 a.m. “Some of the suggestions we have received include yearbooks from area schools, a city newsletter and other artifacts,” said Director of Library Services Hilary Keith, who is part of the committees overseeing the project. Members of the Santa Fe Springs Historical and the 50th Anniversary committees will review the forms and contact people if their ideas are approved. The capsule is part of the city’s 50th anniversary celebration. “The city wants to gather items to place in a time capsule and preserve for future generations,” she said. The stainless steel capsule will be placed underground at the Sculpture Garden with a bronze plaque marking the site in May of next year, said Eddie Ramirez, family services coordinator. The city received the 12-inch-by 18-inch-by-48-inch capsule made by Time Capsules, Inc. on Friday, and it will be displayed at the booth. “No items will be placed in it (today),” Ramirez said, “but there will be some items we have received on display.” “We want to depict life in Santa Fe Springs today, and in 50 years,” Keith said, “those who open it will see what it was like for us.” It will be buried in May and opened in May 2057. One of the items that future residents will see is the winning recipe from today’s chili cook-off. The contest, also part of the golden anniversary, will feature what is being advertised as the best chili in the city. To complement the variety of entries, free hot dogs and corn bread will be served to all. Call (562) 868-0511 for more information. sandra.molina@sgvn.com (562) 698-0955, Ext. 3028160Want local news?Sign up for the Localist and stay informed Something went wrong. Please try again.subscribeCongratulations! You’re all set!
To avoid that painful loss Friedberg started a business that digitally archives photos, documents, videos, and other fragile possessions. Clients receive a CD or DVD of all their possessions and turnaround can be as short as a few days, he said. Prompted by the Malibu fire, Friedberg is offering 50 percent off his fee to digitize photos and documents. He normally charges a quarter to digitize photos smaller than 8.5 inches by 11 inches, plus 35 cents to remove each picture from a frame or photo album. Documents start at 80 cents each with bulk discounts. Each CD of images costs $5 and each DVD costs $8. An alternative to digital safe-keeping is fireproof safes, sold at most hardware stores. At True Value Hardware in Woodland Hills, salesman Bernie Haltman has escape ladders, emergency kits and fireproof safes in stock. They have not been selling very quickly. “Right now they’re more concerned about getting out of the house,” Haltman said. He expects sales to pick up soon. Once worldly possessions are safe the focus in any disaster shifts to one of two things, said Sherry Heitz, owner of Quake Kare in Moorpark. Taking shelter or evacuating. In either case it is best to have enough supplies to be self-sufficient for three days, said Heitz, who sells emergency preparedness kits for many types of disasters. A good kit has food, water, first-aid supplies, a light source, and communication tools. Heitz has fielded calls for cots and blankets from organizations like Pepperdine University and the Red Cross because of the wildfires, but she has not sold many preparedness kits. When the situation calms down and people begin to prepare for the next disaster, kit sales will pick up. “These fires are just another eye-opening experience that we realize nature is out of our control,” Heitz said. Having a kit in your car, at home and at work gives you some control. “If you are in control,” Heitz said, “you are less likely to panic and make the wrong decision.” julia.scott@dailynews.com (818) 713-3735 Running around collecting old family photographs and important documents while fires threaten your home is not the quickest way to evacuate, nor the safest. But it’s common because not many people want to leave their wedding pictures, the title to their home, or other sentimental mementos behind. Now, there’s a way to avoid putting yourself in danger while preserving that sepia-toned snapshot of your grandma when she was 3. “I know how it feels to lose a lot of information,” said Matthew Friedberg, president of Epoch Archiving in Chatsworth. “Whether it’s your hard drive crashing or your house going up in flames its a huge chunk of information that can’t be replaced.” 
AD Quality Auto 360p 720p 1080p Top articles1/5READ MOREGame Center: Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs, Sunday, 10 a.m.You’d better believe the Turks.In Baghdad and Washington, everyone is freaking out. Even Tehran expressed its opposition over the weekend to a Turkish invasion.To say that Turkish patience with the PKK is wearing thin would be a severe understatement. The Marxist organization, deemed a terrorist group by the United States and the European Union, has waged war since 1984 for its aims to swap what it calls occupation for another type of ideological oppression – a neo-socialist state carved out of parts of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria.After so many years and nearly 40,000 killed in the Turkish fight against the PKK, why pick this inopportune timing – namely, when there’s an Iraq in flux with a blessedly stable north – to go in and take them out?What would Ataturk do? Ataturk was the father of modern Turkey, yet also gave birth to fierce nationalism and an example of modernism for Islamic nations. Turks who take pride in the Ataturk legacy have spilled out in the streets in recent days to demand action.“We can’t say when or how we will do it, we will just do it,” Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said of attack plans. At least that’s a switch from the tide in recent years of hashing out war plans first on cable news, stripping the element of surprise in a way that would make Napoleon cringe.Ataturk led the war for independence, and there’s little doubt that he would quash the PKK. No doubt he’d act swiftly to defend Turkey, as the keepers of his legacy, the Turkish military, are sworn to do – as well as keeping the country secular.Because that’s another thing Ataturk would have had little patience for: Islamist movements within Turkey, tension that has shaped the terms of Islamists Erdogan and recently elected President Abdullah Gul.I’ve thought about the WWAD – what would Ataturk do? – and weighed my months of resistance to Turkish military action in Iraq, believing as many do that this would only jack up a country that’s already on shaky ground.However, the WWAD has won out.I realize there are serious, legitimate reasons to tell the Turks to stay home, but staunch opponents of terrorism can’t be hypocrites. The Turks should be able to defend their country as anyone would – or more than most try.Go for it, Turkey. Come in to get rid of the PKK. But I’d argue that a limited incursion is too limited – and if you come into the kitchen and make a mess, you have a responsibility to grab the dustpan and broom, get down on your knees and sweep it up.This is my dream scenario: After Turkey crosses the Iraqi border and kicks some PKK butt, it should stick around to help out the security situation. (Realizing, of course, that agreement between Iraq and the U.S. on this would be tense at best, and homicidal at worst.)Turkey wasn’t much help in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Turkey also has the second largest standing armed forces in NATO. But they should think about regional and domestic security, the Islamist forces of Muqtada al-Sadr and al-Qaida in Iraq that are hellbent on the re-establishment of the caliphate from the Ottoman Empire days.Think about the Islamic movements within Turkey, which for years have drawn influence from Hezbollah ideology. The old Ataturk unity now regaining strength works voodoo on the Islamists trying to upend Turkish secularism.And what could Turkey do with any captured PKK members, radicals intent on forcing a socialist utopia? Ship them to Venezuela, of course.Bridget Johnson writes for the Daily News and blogs at insidesocal.com/friendlyfire. E-mail her at bridget.johnson@dailynews.com.160Want local news?Sign up for the Localist and stay informed Something went wrong. Please try again.subscribeCongratulations! You’re all set! “I am not ordering you to attack; I am ordering you to die,” Mustafa Kemal Ataturk is quoted as telling his troops in the 1915 battle of Gallipoli, in which British and French forces were prevented from taking Istanbul with heavy casualties.So seems the motto of Kurdish rebels who keep ambushing Turkish soldiers on the Iraqi border, racking up a Turkish body count of 42 in the last month as well as kidnapping eight soldiers.The Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, has embraced a death wish.Tanks have massed along the Iraqi border, just waiting for the word go. On Oct. 17, the Turkish parliament voted 507-19 in favor of going into Iraq to rout the PKK. And just days ago, Gen. Yasar Buyukanit said, “We are determined to make those who cause this sadness grieve with an intensity that they cannot imagine.”